Penthouse Pet turned mainstream radio and television personality Sam Phillips joins Caesar on the couch. Phillips has been a regular on 'The Young & the Curious' with a monthly movie review and tonight she gives her thoughts on last week's Academy Awards ceremony before regaling secrets from Sechrest's past. Phillips claims she's known the host since he was 18 years old and working at Sav-On. Sechrest laughs 'I did work there for about two and a half months when I first moved to Los Angeles before I got my first real job at Danni's Hard Drive. In fact despite the fact that I haven't always had great things to say about Danni Ashe she did sort of rescue me from Sav-On and I gave her my name tag when I left Danni's Hard Drive to go freelance. It said “!Serving You Since 1998.'' She has probably stomped on it by now ' cackles Phillips.
'Yeh she probably looks at it and screams “Ya don't serve me no more do ya?!'' laughs Sechrest. Phillips says Ashe is a wonderful woman to which Sechrest retorts 'She is a horrible human being. Satan incarnate.'
Sechrest thanks Caesar and Sam Phillips for joining him on the show as he introduces the legendary Ginger Lynn to 'The Young & the Curious.' Ginger Lynn gives a brief history of how she became involved in adult entertainment: 'I moved to California when I was 19 and I thought life was free and easy living on the beach and lots of fun. I just came to visit family relative at first and I had been managing a Sam Goodys in Illinois. So I walked into one of their stores in California and they offered to double my salary and give me a thousand dollars to move there and work as a trouble shooter for them. I was managing nine Musicland stores and I was so bad even then sleeping with all of my employees. But I was working 70 hours a week and thought there has to be more to life than this! So I answered an ad for some bachelor party, brought my boom box, brought my boyfriend and I had really practiced for it and thought I was ready. What I hadn't thought through is that I would be the only girl in the room and when I walked in there were all these guys just sitting there waiting for me to be the main event. I ran out and left my boom box and my boyfriend. I took the car and left. That didn't work out too well.'
Ginger Lynn says she met a 23 year old boy from Washington last week who reminded her of herself at that age. 'He had this hard cut body and tattoos and the nicest big fat uncircumcised cock. He'd been hard through his clothes the whole night but the moment I took his clothes off he was so nervous it just went limp. I had to talk him through everything even eating pussy and eventually I was over it. I said 'You know what honey. I'm tired. You have to go.''
Ginger Lynn as we all know got over her own case of sex fright. 'I desperately wanted to be a bad girl 'and I was in my private life but doing it in front of a crowd took a series of instances like wet t-shirt contest for me to get used to. Fast forward a few years and I hook up with World Modeling then Penthouse shooting with Suze Randall. I get asked to do movies and think I'm not that kind of girl but three months later I'm sucking cock on camera and having a good time. I was still uncomfortable talking on camera though. I would do my sex scenes and have no problem and then when it came time to act the words wouldn't come out. Jerry Butler was my leading man at the time and he pulled an old actor's trick on me. I couldn't get the emotion that I needed to do this particular scene so he started bashing my grandfather who had just passed away and was my favorite person in the world. Then he started bashing me and calling me names and he was being so abusive. I wanted to cry I wanted to scream I wanted to hit him all of my emotions were right there on the surface and I was going crazy. He suddenly stops throws the script at me and goes 'There. Read the script that way.''
Ginger Lynn says it was her first taste of becoming a real actress something that preceded seven years of acting classes.
'So I worked in adult for two years and three months retired for about fourteen years and came back in 1999 with VCA Pictures . We had a three picture deal with an option to do more and we've been doing them on good faith ever since. I don't know how much longer I want to be in front of the cameras though.'
For now Ginger Lynn's focus is on her own video production company Gingerbread Productions the first video line from which will be 'Ultimate Reel People.' She explains 'The series will feature all amateurs and you can submit yourself whether you're male or female. We currently have 111 contestants up and you as a viewer can go on and rate them. I am looking for real amateurs. You can only be an amateur one time. I think there's so many gorgeous beautiful talented women in the industry today but I think something has changed that is not really for the better. Many of the people seem to think they need to be cookie cutter people. Same nose job same tit job same hair color; they become this parody of a porn star. What makes a person hot to me at least is who they really are. I remember when I used to do movies back in the old days when you'd walk in and you don't know the person and you start to wiggle with excitement and you can't wait to start the scene. Today everyone has a list of who they will fuck and who they won't and I'm sorry but sex isn't a business. It can be but in front of the camera it needs to be fun and it needs to be real.'
Ginger Lynn plays matchmaker with the contestants on the site pairing the highest together by their sexual likes and dislikes. 'You then get blindfolded and taken to my house - blindfolded because I don't want them to know where I live and we have sex games for ice breakers before taping them actually going at it. It's a lot of fun and I think it will make for a really unique series.'
As for her mainstream accomplishments under the name Ginger Lynn Allen she cites a Metallica video directed by Jonas Akurland and her featured role in 'Bound and Gagged: A Love Story' as those for which she is most proud.
Sechrest then plays a game of what he calls 'Name Association' throwing out names to see her immediate and uncensored reaction.
Jerry Stiller: 'Hair. Hair is what came to mind. ... Was he fun to work with? Oh! Oh Jerry Stiller! I'm thinking Jerry Springer. Oh smiles. I love Jerry Stiller. When I did the movie 'The Independent' with him I really wanted his autograph and a photo with him but I was too shy and nervous. He came up to me on the last day of shooting though and asked me for mine. He said he was a fan. It was really very sweet.'
Traci Lords. 'Slut. Hope her tits rot and fall off.'
Ron Jeremy. 'Skanky. Oh! Did I say that? ... Rapist. Oh!'
Charlie Sheen. 'Mush. Stole my heart. Only man I ever loved besides my grandfather.'
Jenna Jameson. 'Beautiful.'
Steve Hirsch. 'Pinky.' She holds up her pinky finger with a sly smile.
Ginger Lynn says that while she lives by a 'no regrets' motto if there was one thing she would change about her life in the adult industry it is that she didn't save money. 'Part of me really wishes I'd saved it but then I think you're only 22 once. Those things I did they wouldn't be the same today.'
Sechrest pulls out a quote from a past interview he found on Ginger Lynn and reads it to her stating that it reminds him of his own dysfunctional childhood and how slipping into a fantasy world can become a child's only escape. The quote reads: 'I got to the point where I used to try to make myself believe that my mother wasn't my real mother and the life I had wasn't my real life. I would pretend that reality was just my imagination and I would create plays and shows and pretend that was my real life.'
'Ginger do you still pretend?' asks Sechrest.
'Only on camera' she smiles misty-eyed. 'I don't have a need to pretend in my private life anymore.'
Sechrest asks Ginger Lynn to reveal a secret about herself something no one knows. 'I have patchwork pussy hair. It's kind of funny and embarrassing at the same time. I had had five surgeries in that area and my pubic hair has changed colors in areas. I have like white-white hair blonde hair red hair. I don't know what to do with it! I have to fix it! I have like four different colors right now. It's a zebra pussy or a leopard or something.'
Meanwhile Ginger Lynn can't keep her hand out of Michael Brandon's shorts and eventually she and Sechrest decide to start directing the other four in a live sex scene. On a dare Bret Wolfe agrees to go down on Alana Evans his first time ever eating pussy on or off camera! Wolfe surprised says it actually tastes very good while Evans says 'He really knows what he's doing.' Gavin Braun then bends over for some ass play for the cameras and eventually Ginger Lynn can no longer contain herself. She drops to her knees and begins to suck Gavin Braun then Michael Brandon and finally takes both into her mouth at the same time. The show climaxes with Brandon shooting his load all over Wolfe's face as Sechrest yells 'I love my job!' while Ginger Lynn screams 'Happy Anniversary Jason! Here's to another year!”